Discussion:
Liberation of Women should include Exposed Breasts
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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-21 02:08:38 UTC
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(Some women drive trucks, but they are only big cages... This is true
liberation!)

Western Liberation of women ain't liberation at all, I may say, as
women are financial slaves to their car --or "cage" as it is commonly
known-- or limited to go to parks for fear of the hobos and sexual
predators.

My opinion is particularly important because that's my riding style in
my local park, and the only way to beat the heat in summer days. I
wear my safari hat and open my shirt endlessly riding my bike through
the winding path, while I witness those hobos sleeping on those
benches with casual disregard for the public.

So I say, with all the weight of my wisdom, that women have the same
right to go bare-breasted and be free from hobos. Liberation time
shouldn't be limited to a few Arab countries. We mean EQUAL RIGHTS FOR
ALL.

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Vince
2011-04-21 03:32:50 UTC
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On 4/20/2011 10:08 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
(Some women drive trucks, but they are only big cages... This is true
liberation!)
Western Liberation of women ain't liberation at all, I may say, as
women are financial slaves to their car --or "cage" as it is commonly
known-- or limited to go to parks for fear of the hobos and sexual
predators.
My opinion is particularly important because that's my riding style in
my local park, and the only way to beat the heat in summer days. I
wear my safari hat and open my shirt endlessly riding my bike through
the winding path, while I witness those hobos sleeping on those
benches with casual disregard for the public.
So I say, with all the weight of my wisdom, that women have the same
right to go bare-breasted and be free from hobos. Liberation time
shouldn't be limited to a few Arab countries. We mean EQUAL RIGHTS FOR
ALL.
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I sure some in this NG may not know that here in NYC a woman can walk
around TOPLESS.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-21 12:17:33 UTC
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Post by Vince
I sure some in this NG may not know that here in NYC a woman can walk
around TOPLESS.
I heard that before and yet they crack down on it. Interesting case
that the printed letter and reality are different. We can investigate
that later.

See this...
Post by Vince
They say we have equal rights for all. They just don't want to put it in
writing.
Yeah, look at the shameful way they treat women accused of this
"crime"...

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2011/02/17/Police-Woman-exposed-breasts-at-school/UPI-20041297970612/

Exposing that picture is more obscene than exposing her breasts.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-21 13:25:35 UTC
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Like everything out there, the world has two faces: THEORY & PRACTICE.
As a cyclist I know my right to ride on the road doesn't extend to
real life safety. The cyclist is simply not protected in case of an
accident and the driver either leaves the scene or escapes with a
misdemeanor. But the best case scenario is RIDING UNDER STRESS, and
that doesn't match my peaceful way of life. (STRESS IS THE KEY WORD)

But the subject here is breasts and we shall see the way it works in
New York City...

(I quote)

I would have thought that women, used to having men stare at their
cleavage, would be more subtle when they checked out a woman's chest.
But the ladies in line weren't subtle, nor were they polite. I heard
murmurs about breasts and "that girl." If I turned toward the
whispering and offered a nervous smile, all I got in return was the
lady in question looking away or continuing to whisper to her friend.
I hid behind my bag as much as possible.

I was almost to the front of the line when a cop walked past. His back
was to me, but my mind was racing. I was suddenly paranoid that what
was legal in the meadow was a crime at public restrooms. The cop was
almost past us, but I was terrified that one of the whispering women
would tattle on me. I was only three ladies away from getting into a
stall and peeing in peace, then two more steps, then one…

Just inside the door, I heard, "Ma'am, I'm sorry but you need to put a
top on. If an officer sees you, that's a summons." A cool and
collected park employee stood in the women's restroom with a mop and
bucket. "Oh!" I fumbled in my bag for my top, "Thank you!" I was
flustered. I was blushing. I felt like a scolded child, even though my
bare chest pretty blatantly indicated I was a grown woman. "It's fine
if you're sunbathing," she explained without scorn, "but if you're
walking around, you have to wear a top."

I breathed another "Thank you!" and pulled my tank on as my heart beat
in my throat. The women around me were validated, and their whispering
returned in full-force. I couldn't get in or out of the bathroom fast
enough. Back outside, I waited for Megan awkwardly while the line of
women continued to stare, some even bolder now that my nipples were
tucked away.

When Megan finally made it out, it was time to take my titties home.
It wasn't until I was hopping down the stairs of the subway that I
realized my mistake: I'd never put my bra back on. As I rode the train
home, I rested my breasts on my tote and willed my nipples not to get
hard.

Conclusion:

Being carefree and topless was incredibly stressful. Perhaps with
every right comes responsibility, but between sunburns and smack-talk,
I found toplessness exhausting.

http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_exposed_my_breasts_in_public?page=entire

***

ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
Vince
2011-04-21 20:10:05 UTC
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On 4/21/2011 9:25 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Like everything out there, the world has two faces: THEORY& PRACTICE.
As a cyclist I know my right to ride on the road doesn't extend to
real life safety. The cyclist is simply not protected in case of an
accident and the driver either leaves the scene or escapes with a
misdemeanor. But the best case scenario is RIDING UNDER STRESS, and
that doesn't match my peaceful way of life. (STRESS IS THE KEY WORD)
But the subject here is breasts and we shall see the way it works in
New York City...
(I quote)
I would have thought that women, used to having men stare at their
cleavage, would be more subtle when they checked out a woman's chest.
But the ladies in line weren't subtle, nor were they polite. I heard
murmurs about breasts and "that girl." If I turned toward the
whispering and offered a nervous smile, all I got in return was the
lady in question looking away or continuing to whisper to her friend.
I hid behind my bag as much as possible.
I was almost to the front of the line when a cop walked past. His back
was to me, but my mind was racing. I was suddenly paranoid that what
was legal in the meadow was a crime at public restrooms. The cop was
almost past us, but I was terrified that one of the whispering women
would tattle on me. I was only three ladies away from getting into a
stall and peeing in peace, then two more steps, then one…
Just inside the door, I heard, "Ma'am, I'm sorry but you need to put a
top on. If an officer sees you, that's a summons." A cool and
collected park employee stood in the women's restroom with a mop and
bucket. "Oh!" I fumbled in my bag for my top, "Thank you!" I was
flustered. I was blushing. I felt like a scolded child, even though my
bare chest pretty blatantly indicated I was a grown woman. "It's fine
if you're sunbathing," she explained without scorn, "but if you're
walking around, you have to wear a top."
I breathed another "Thank you!" and pulled my tank on as my heart beat
in my throat. The women around me were validated, and their whispering
returned in full-force. I couldn't get in or out of the bathroom fast
enough. Back outside, I waited for Megan awkwardly while the line of
women continued to stare, some even bolder now that my nipples were
tucked away.
When Megan finally made it out, it was time to take my titties home.
It wasn't until I was hopping down the stairs of the subway that I
realized my mistake: I'd never put my bra back on. As I rode the train
home, I rested my breasts on my tote and willed my nipples not to get
hard.
Being carefree and topless was incredibly stressful. Perhaps with
every right comes responsibility, but between sunburns and smack-talk,
I found toplessness exhausting.
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_exposed_my_breasts_in_public?page=entire
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-21 22:23:40 UTC
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Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law. Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Well in that case why didn't he ticket her right away?
The cop never saw her. She feared the other ladies would turn her in.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-21 22:30:33 UTC
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Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law. Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.

This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
Vince
2011-04-21 23:49:00 UTC
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On 4/21/2011 6:30 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law. Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.
This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
What confusion the law saids topless period?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-22 03:46:46 UTC
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Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:30 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law.  Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.
This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
What confusion the law saids topless period?
Notice she's told that she's OK to expose herself only to take the sun
not to walk around. We would have to see the law in question.
Vince
2011-04-22 03:49:01 UTC
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On 4/21/2011 11:46 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:30 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law. Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.
This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
What confusion the law saids topless period?
Notice she's told that she's OK to expose herself only to take the sun
not to walk around. We would have to see the law in question.
What confusion the law saids topless period? Nothing about sunning
TOPLESS PERIOD!

The cop was a jerk
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-22 03:56:01 UTC
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Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 11:46 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:30 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law.  Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.
This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
What confusion the law saids topless period?
Notice she's told that she's OK to expose herself only to take the sun
not to walk around. We would have to see the law in question.
  What confusion the law saids topless period? Nothing about sunning
TOPLESS PERIOD!
The cop was a jerk
She was reprimanded by a park attendant in the first case. The second
case he's a jerk who could have confirmed the law before proceeding to
the arrest.

Again, anyone has seen the law in question?
Vince
2011-04-22 04:15:20 UTC
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On 4/21/2011 11:56 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 11:46 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:30 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law. Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.
This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
What confusion the law saids topless period?
Notice she's told that she's OK to expose herself only to take the sun
not to walk around. We would have to see the law in question.
What confusion the law saids topless period? Nothing about sunning
TOPLESS PERIOD!
The cop was a jerk
She was reprimanded by a park attendant in the first case. The second
case he's a jerk who could have confirmed the law before proceeding to
the arrest.
Again, anyone has seen the law in question?
check out this one

http://uncoveredbook.com/preview.php


from this page:

http://www.gotopless.org/news.php?item.3.1



In 1992 New York's highest state court ruled that women could be topfree
in public. Since 1992 women in the highly populous State of New York
have enjoyed the right to bare their chests whenever men could do so. As
one New York Justice wrote in his concurring opinion, "One of the most
important purposes to be served by the equal protection clause is to
ensure that 'public sensibilities' grounded in prejudice and unexamined
sterotypes do not become enshrined as part of the official policy of
government."
In a curious loop of history, the female rights movement in the United
States began in Rochester, New York, with Elizabeth Cady Stanton as a
principle pioneer. In her time Elizabeth Cady Stanton was ridiculed for
wearing bloomers instead of a floor-length skirt. In 1986 seven
Rochester women held topfree picnics, resulting in New York's highest
court ruling female topfreedom legal in 1992 (see above). Now Cathy
Stanton, the 63-year old great-great-granddaughter of Elizabeth Cady
Stanton, is a plaintiff in the Florida suit.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-22 13:02:38 UTC
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Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 11:56 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 11:46 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:30 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
http://www.alternet.org/sex/142214/what_happened_when_i_legally_expos...
***
ARE WE LIVING IN A HYPOCRISY AS A RESULT OF LIVING AMONG THE
CHRISTIANS? It sounds reasonable to say so, but I'm sure other
societies have their own double standards.
If its legal in NYC how can a cop give a lady a ticket?
Some cops don't know the law.  Hell, they're probably trained to be
rather ignorant.
Hey, they are also ignorant that bikes are legal on the road and
sometimes they send you on the sidewalk. Who knows how the law on
breasts is written.
This is all confusing so the conflict comes from the interpretation.
What confusion the law saids topless period?
Notice she's told that she's OK to expose herself only to take the sun
not to walk around. We would have to see the law in question.
   What confusion the law saids topless period? Nothing about sunning
TOPLESS PERIOD!
The cop was a jerk
She was reprimanded by a park attendant in the first case. The second
case he's a jerk who could have confirmed the law before proceeding to
the arrest.
Again, anyone has seen the law in question?
check out this one
http://uncoveredbook.com/preview.php
Great! One sign says, "CHANGE THE RULES, CHANGE THE WORLD"
Post by Vince
http://www.gotopless.org/news.php?item.3.1
In 1992 New York's highest state court ruled that women could be topfree
in public. Since 1992 women in the highly populous State of New York
have enjoyed the right to bare their chests whenever men could do so. As
one New York Justice wrote in his concurring opinion, "One of the most
important purposes to be served by the equal protection clause is to
ensure that 'public sensibilities' grounded in prejudice and unexamined
sterotypes do not become enshrined as part of the official policy of
government."
In a curious loop of history, the female rights movement in the United
States began in Rochester, New York, with Elizabeth Cady Stanton as a
principle pioneer. In her time Elizabeth Cady Stanton was ridiculed for
wearing bloomers instead of a floor-length skirt. In 1986 seven
Rochester women held topfree picnics, resulting in New York's highest
court ruling female topfreedom legal in 1992 (see above). Now Cathy
Stanton, the 63-year old great-great-granddaughter of Elizabeth Cady
Stanton, is a plaintiff in the Florida suit.
Wow, liberation time. Has it spread to Paris or are they worrying
about the burka too much? ;)

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-21 22:41:38 UTC
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_Kjmczx695mfve8vfHGB26J

OK, in this case she was arrested and was compensated later. It still
seems like an act of courage and she was humiliated as well.
Vince
2011-04-21 23:51:03 UTC
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On 4/21/2011 6:41 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_Kjmczx695mfve8vfHGB26J
OK, in this case she was arrested and was compensated later. It still
seems like an act of courage and she was humiliated as well.
Coney Island Mer maid Parade where they've been topless for years
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-22 03:48:23 UTC
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Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:41 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_Kjmczx695mfve8vfHGB26J
OK, in this case she was arrested and was compensated later. It still
seems like an act of courage and she was humiliated as well.
Coney Island Mer maid Parade where they've been topless for years
We are talking about women going around on a bike and cooling down by
opening her shirt. Same as a man.
Vince
2011-04-22 04:08:33 UTC
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On 4/21/2011 11:48 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:41 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_Kjmczx695mfve8vfHGB26J
OK, in this case she was arrested and was compensated later. It still
seems like an act of courage and she was humiliated as well.
Coney Island Mer maid Parade where they've been topless for years
We are talking about women going around on a bike and cooling down by
opening her shirt. Same as a man.
Pay attention someone mentioned the above event
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2011-04-22 12:53:54 UTC
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Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 11:48 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Post by Vince
On 4/21/2011 6:41 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_Kjmczx695mfve8vfHGB26J
OK, in this case she was arrested and was compensated later. It still
seems like an act of courage and she was humiliated as well.
Coney Island Mer maid Parade where they've been topless for years
We are talking about women going around on a bike and cooling down by
opening her shirt. Same as a man.
Pay attention someone mentioned the above event
Who, haven't seen that. Can you please quote?

I've found out that the only day to enjoy the hot summer is both to
RIDE A BIKE and OPEN MY SHIRT which is often a safari vest. Hat --not
helmet-- is a must.

I feel sorry for those ladies who must wear a top, but they can
mitigate the heat by wearing a shirt somewhat unbuttoned without bra.
I mean you can wear a burka and ride a bike but it doesn't sound
natural.
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