Can we blame the Christians for the Republican Party policies?

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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

2011-04-09 17:40:50 UTC

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE & DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

They don't trust people riding bicycles who --like Gandhi-- are the
change they want to see in the world...

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:59:52 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

sroda, 6 kwietnia 2011 20:36. carbon entity 'His Highness the TibetanMonkey,

I like to parade here some arguments for Christianity being one or the
other. I myself believe it's an overwhelmingly destructive force, but
I'm only a monkey with common sense...

You are only a monkey with a vary limited scope of knowlege and vision
- like most Monkeys.

Isn't that an act of discrimination? Monkeys are the most intelligent
species out there, only that they are dumb when they act like MONKEY
SEE MONKEY DO and organize to worship some "supreme being" they
haven't seen.

http://marquetteeducator.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/thinking-monkey1...
1- IT OPPOSES SCIENCE in such issues as EVOLUTION & CLIMATE CHANGE,
which in turn determine where we came from and we are headed,

Not necessarily true.

It seems the Catholics admit both, but they offer no solution about
it. Their churches' parking lots are still full of cars.

2- They follow a certain command to CONQUER THE EARTH, giving little
thought to "lesser species,"
3- They fail to understand the basic principle of CAUSE & EFFECT, ie.
"my choice of transportation is part of the problem/solution,"

Absolutely not true of many Christians I know, and also very true of
many non-christians.

Oh no, NONCHRISTIANS must admit that shit they put out stays in the
system and that this humble planet can't handle the heat from 7,000
million wasteful monkeys. Christians would probably disagree with the
last statement, though they seem to be #1.

4- They seem to vote for the most "ALPHA MALE LEADERS," ready to
launch one more questionable war, and then ignore the price of it,

Not necessarily true. MANY Christians are non-viollent and totally
opposed to war and violence of any kind.

True, but they are mostly irrelevant in politics. The monkey troop is
run by alpha males and their followers.

5- They are WAITING FOR JESUS, who's coming soon to get them out of
this Hell and leave the rest behind.
I'm getting on my Beach Cruiser now to think about these and other
issues that slow down progress. By the way, riding on sidewalks is not
the answer.
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You wanted to say the _Puritans_ are destructive force --- the Oliver-
Cromwell, Cotton-Mather, Fred-Phelps-like talibangelic riff-raff, I
absolutely agree with You for that matter. But there is also Celtic Church,
Church of the Eastand Liberal Catholic Church, haven't You forgotten about
them???

And he has also forgotten about all the historic peace churches and
the anabaptists (that is NOT baptists) which have been a positive
influence for peace, respect, and social issues around the world - in
North, Central, and south America, Africa, Asia, and just about
anywhere they are found.

I'm pretty sure they know we are teasing the dumb monkeys to do moral
actions. Nothing against them.

Wherever relief efforts are required (think Haiti, Japan, Indonesia,
New Orleans, etc) you will find MCC and/or MDS involved in a positive
and effective way.
Google "Mennonite Central Committee" and "Mennonite Disaster Service"

Good, I usually spare my words against followers of Jesus that really
follow Jesus. I even admire Gandhi, even though he was not a
Christian.

I mean the American sects for the most part. They are the most
influential and powerful, ie. Republican Party members.

Republican party member does not equal Christian, and Christian does
not equal Republican.

Yes, sometimes the public imagination outside of the troop runs as
fast as the bad reputation:

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians
are so unlike your Christ.”

But I'm sure Gandhi was generalizing. ;)

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John S

2011-04-09 19:13:21 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama

"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama

"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama

"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama

Obama Prayers:
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-christian-prayer-breakfast-doubt/1

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

John S

2011-04-09 19:13:48 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

2011-04-09 23:03:22 UTC

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Nobody can think "outside the box" and still get away with it, least
of all a black president. His proposals to introduce fast trains are
particularly "evil." ;)

John S

2011-04-09 23:11:06 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!

Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

2011-04-10 00:42:22 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.

That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

John S

2011-04-10 01:40:19 UTC

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

Freedom of religion is a "drawback of democracy?"

Free Lunch

2011-04-10 01:42:22 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 8:42 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

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On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

Freedom of religion is a "drawback of democracy?"

No, the drawback is that politicians need to claim to be believers
because so many religious folks mindlessly discriminate against those
who are not believers. I don't have any reason to think that people are
believers just because they say so for public consumption.

John S

2011-04-10 01:46:35 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 8:42 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

Freedom of religion is a "drawback of democracy?"

No, the drawback is that politicians need to claim to be believers
because so many religious folks mindlessly discriminate against those
who are not believers.

Do you think that Obama "claims to be a believer" to get votes?

Vince

2011-04-10 04:58:55 UTC

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

Freedom of religion is a "drawback of democracy?"

Right the whole point of my other posting

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

2011-04-10 02:43:54 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

Freedom of religion is a "drawback of democracy?"

Not really. Freedom of religion is good, but FREEDOM FROM RELIGION is
even better.

It also has other drawbacks that I had in mind.

Vince

2011-04-10 04:56:13 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

One of the biggest drawbacks in democracy is how the president better be
a church goer. Its just plain stupid

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

2011-04-10 13:58:43 UTC

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On 4/9/2011 8:42 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

One of the biggest drawbacks in democracy is how the president better be
a church goer. Its just plain stupid

True, his faith should be a private matter when he chooses to say: NO
COMMENT.

But I was also referring to a broader aspect of "drawbacks of
democracy," ie. people don't want to hear the truth, and rather go
"light" on substance. Case in point:

PRESIDENT: "Do you all want the war in Iraq?"

CROWD: "Yes, yes, we want war!"

PRESIDENT: "But it'll take sending your sons and paying for it."

CROWD: They quietly leave the President alone.

John S

2011-04-10 15:01:49 UTC

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On 4/10/2011 9:58 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

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Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 8:42 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 7:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

Post by John S
On 4/9/2011 1:40 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser

Somewhere between EVIL, INDIFFERENCE& DUMBNESS they are found
populating political alliances and mall parking lots. They shape what
the issues are for the next elections --moral issues-- and have a
watchful eye toward, perish the thought, anyone who challenges the
POLITICS OF WASTE. They are not necessarily members of the Republican
Party, but most members of the latter have a close relationship with
"God," who dictates "family values," and other bullshit.

"And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the
United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under
God" -- Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
"We do what we do because God is with us." - Barack Obama
"But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other
people, and do our best to help them find their own grace. That's what I
strive to do, that's what I pray to do every day." - Barack Obama
Obama Prayers:http://www.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/02/obama-chris...
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no,
no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people.
God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn
America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." -
"Reverend" Jeremiah Wright

True, true, everybody is playing the same game to get the vote of the
sheep, but he's chastised by the Christian Right for doing some mild
reforms to correct the worst cruelties of the system.

Are you trying to say that Obama was not speaking truthfully or from the
heart in every one of these comments? He can outright lie just so
people hear what he wants them to hear? Surely, this cannot be true for
the anointed One!
Your attempts to demagogue Obama are unbecoming. Surely he is an honest
man and Obama meant every word of "We do what we do because God is with
us."

Not particularly. Every one of our representatives --except one I
hear-- claims to believe in God, and this is highly educated people
for the most part who know the way things work in real life.
That's one of the drawbacks of democracy, but by no means the only one.

One of the biggest drawbacks in democracy is how the president better be
a church goer. Its just plain stupid

True, his faith should be a private matter when he chooses to say: NO
COMMENT.
But I was also referring to a broader aspect of "drawbacks of
democracy," ie. people don't want to hear the truth, and rather go
PRESIDENT: "Do you all want the war in Iraq?"
CROWD: "Yes, yes, we want war!"
PRESIDENT: "But it'll take sending your sons and paying for it."
CROWD: They quietly leave the President alone.

If you are not spouting more bull, when and where was the speech you
reference?

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

2011-04-10 18:32:20 UTC

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