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We've become wingless chicken
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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-10-28 14:27:11 UTC
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I say that you must know what's going on in the jungle, and if you
don't like it, make noise. Someone comes up with this clever satire:

"Chickens have more rights to cross the road than you do."

In Miami, drivers are more likely to stop for one of our many stray
roosters than for a pedestrian. That is just how it works here. If you
don’t like it, don’t come.

http://www.miamibeach411.com/index.php?/news/miami-pedestrians/

MY COMMENT:

"Chicken got more respect because they have the support of the Humane
Society. Funny thing is that we are more humane toward animals than
other human beings.

I would say this rage keeps many pedestrians and cyclists from ever
coming out of the cage. So we are chicken in the cage."

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Is that why chicken are so noisy? Tempting conclusion. I eat eggs laid
by "free chicken."

Or maybe the guy calls pedestrians "chicken" means it. They figure
chicken should be in the cage. It's noticeably worse when you "put on
wings" and ride a bike.

Growing wings must have been a revolutionary step in evolution, one
that must have caused countless crashes. But being on the ground
wasn't a choice.
Pablo
2012-10-28 18:05:00 UTC
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Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
"Chicken got more respect because they have the support of the Humane
Society. Funny thing is that we are more humane toward animals than
other human beings.
I would say this rage keeps many pedestrians and cyclists from ever
coming out of the cage. So we are chicken in the cage."
In your country, is "chicken" really a plural?
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Pablo
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-10-29 01:57:26 UTC
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On Oct 28, 11:04 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
I say that you must know what's going on in the jungle, and if you
"Chickens have more rights to cross the road than you do."
In Miami, drivers are more likely to stop for one of our many stray
roosters than for a pedestrian. That is just how it works here. If you
don’t like it, don’t come.
http://www.miamibeach411.com/index.php?/news/miami-pedestrians/
"Chicken got more respect because they have the support of the Humane
Society. Funny thing is that we are more humane toward animals than
other human beings.
I would say this rage keeps many pedestrians and cyclists from ever
coming out of the cage. So we are chicken in the cage."
***
Is that why chicken are so noisy? Tempting conclusion. I eat eggs laid
by "free chicken."
Or maybe the guy calls pedestrians "chicken" means it. They figure
chicken should be in the cage. It's noticeably worse when you "put on
wings" and ride a bike.
Growing wings must have been a revolutionary step in evolution, one
that must have caused countless crashes. But being on the ground
wasn't a choice.
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On Oct 28, 11:04 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
I say that you must know what's going on in the jungle, and if you
"Chickens have more rights to cross the road than you do."
In Miami, drivers are more likely to stop for one of our many stray
roosters than for a pedestrian. That is just how it works here. If you
don’t like it, don’t come.
http://www.miamibeach411.com/index.php?/news/miami-pedestrians/
"Chicken got more respect because they have the support of the Humane
Society. Funny thing is that we are more humane toward animals than
other human beings.
I would say this rage keeps many pedestrians and cyclists from ever
coming out of the cage. So we are chicken in the cage."
***
Is that why chicken are so noisy? Tempting conclusion. I eat eggs laid
by "free chicken."
Or maybe the guy calls pedestrians "chicken" means it. They figure
chicken should be in the cage. It's noticeably worse when you "put on
wings" and ride a bike.
Growing wings must have been a revolutionary step in evolution, one
that must have caused countless crashes. But being on the ground
wasn't a choice.
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Someone replies to the article above with this insightful post:

tjblaze says:
You’re wrong, Matt. That attitude has nothing to do with Latin
culture or Miami Beach. If it did, the pedestrian injury rate would
be higher there than in other cities and in fact, the Miami area ranks
behind Tampa and Orlando in that regard. Your attitude, well
expressed, is actually the result of 80 years of brainwashing by the
automobile and oil industries. It’s a false value. In reality,
people (mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, friends,
lovers) are all much more important than the efficiency associated
with getting somewhere faster. And if you can’t see the inherent
beauty in the slow gait of a frail elderly woman, you are more blind
than the man cautiously finding his way across the road with a white
stick.
What is really ironic is that in communities with higher density the
automobile model fails and causes the inefficiencies and congestion
that foster your frustration as a motorist. The leaders in the best
cities in the world understand that they must enact policy that will
discourage people from bringing cars into their central business
districts because minimizing car use in those areas actually
facilitates the movement of people. And more movement of people means
more business. These visionary leaders get a lot of pushback from
those who are thoroughly brainwashed and unimaginative and who resent
the notion of actually having to be thoughtful about their
transportation decisions. Miami Beach is a great example of a City
that would benefit economically from good, efficient transit
connections from the mainland. Lots of us don’t go there precisely
because the traffic congestion is so bad and no alternative is
provided.
What we commonly call “roads” are actually rights-of-way - part of the
public commonwealth reserved for freedom of movement - a basic
necessity in the “pursuit of happiness”. That they have been so
overwhelmingly conscripted by a single mode is a real tragedy for our
communities.
As someone who lost a sister as a pedestrian victim, your post is
particularly offensive and pitiful. I hope it is a failed attempt at
humor.

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I still think it's satire meant to bring about change. But I may be
wrong.

If the tourists stay away they will have to change:

Steven says:
I was planning a trip to Miami with my family but now maybe I will
think again. I do not want to go to a place and spend my hard earned
dollars where I have to fear for my kids lives when simply crossing
the street. Maybe I should take my family elsewhere, somewhere where
the basic rights of a person are respected, not someplace where
pedestrians are treated like mushrooms in Mario cart. Thanks for the
heads up Miami tourism site.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-10-29 02:51:21 UTC
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You’re wrong, Matt. ...
As someone who lost a sister as a pedestrian victim, your post is
particularly offensive and pitiful.  I hope it is a failed attempt at
humor.
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I still think it's satire meant to bring about change. But I may be
wrong.
Cross-walks have been known to be death traps.
Peds enter them thinking cars will yield. Big mistake.
Keep the eyes on the cars. Signs should be posted.
As if you were in the jungle. They see you hesitate and proceed.

You must always be looking over the shoulder as well.
Walk defensively. Don't think that just cuz the right-
of-way is yours that a driver gives a shit or is not
talking on a cell-phone. Blah, blah, blah. Etc. Etc. Etc.
They could really ban those, but they won't.
City planners may or may not try to induce people,
by making their down-towns full of places to go,
to use mass-transit.
If the city planners don't get it right, who will? The chicken --I
mean the pedestrians-- got absolutely no power.
By clogging up downtowns with places to go
traffic gets worse with no ends in sites.
I was planning a trip to Miami with my family but now maybe I will
think again. I do not want to go to a place and spend my hard earned
dollars where I have to fear for my kids lives when simply crossing
the street. Maybe I should take my family elsewhere, somewhere where
the basic rights of a person are respected, not someplace where
pedestrians are treated like mushrooms in Mario cart. Thanks for the
heads up Miami tourism site.
Steven maybe could join you in Germany.
Where all the lights are always green.
And other such things are really keen.
Some places in America are much better:

David says:
Really,you’re complaining about traffic, in Miami?! Have you been to
any other big city; DC, New York, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco?
There is much worse traffic in those cities and they still treat their
pedestrians with respect as they are part of the culture.

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I remember LA having much more respect for pedestrians. It's part of
the culture... which we can create.

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