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Surviving Progress
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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-17 16:06:58 UTC
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That's the title of this documentary:



All the ingredients are there: the monkey, pollution, China embracing
consumption, revolution... We are in trouble and it asks the most
important faced by philosophers: "WHY?"

It turns out that the monkey never asks why and we humans often forget
to. Why are we recklessly destroying the planet? Why can't we ride a
bike in peace?

"Surviving" is the perfect word because life nowadays is about
survival and it will be more and more so as we progress toward the
end. Hopefully a revolution will make things right before that happens
and the monkey will be happy out of the cage once again.


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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-18 15:09:34 UTC
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http://youtu.be/3DuampumYoc
Looks to be a bit of drama
posing as fact.
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All the ingredients are there: the monkey, pollution, China embracing
consumption, revolution... We are in trouble
You and your dog are in trouble?
You mean the super-volcano?
You mean the asteroid?
The next ice age?
Your Red Giant?
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
and it asks the most
important faced by philosophers: "WHY?"
Well, you see, your planet, that you call Earth
is geologically active. Super-volcanoes explode
and at times a mass extinction occurs.
Earth, as you call it, is also bombarded at times
by what are called meteors. Some large space rocks
are also known as asteriods. The collide with your planet
and sometimes a mass extinction occurs.
When the dinosaurs got wiped out, about 65 million
or so years ago, there appear to have been both
perfectly natural events happening at the same time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event
Your planet also experiences Ice Ages regularly.
At present, your species enjoys an inter-glacial period.
This period will last for a spell, then ice will again
cover a large portion of the surface, totally crushing
your species' building projects. New York City, last time,
was buried under about a mile of ice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interglacial
Eventually your star, the Sun as you may know it,
will expand into a red giant sphere, envelope the Earth
and wipe out everything that remains on the surface.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_giant#The_Sun_as_a_red_giant
Anything you and your dog do in between these events,
all of which are very likely to occur, basically amounts to
spinning your wheels without getting traction.
You appear to have a very narrow focus.
A sort of tight-knit mental framework
within which your operating system
falls rather short, kinda flat, on its face.
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
It turns out that the monkey never asks why and we humans often forget
to. Why are we recklessly destroying the planet?
I have no idea why you and your dog
would do something like that. Maybe you
and he are reckless destroyers of your world-
view as you see fit to see it.
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Why can't we ride a bike in peace?
That's probably a mental situation.
Many if not most of us cyclists are able to.
Why you are unable to
may have something
to do with your attitude. Your outlook.
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
"Surviving" is the perfect word because life nowadays is about
survival
Guess what. You're not going to survive.
Not in your present physical form.
Each day
what was before
is no longer. Yesterday survives
only in recent memory.
Your body is different now
than it was when you were born.
Your old young baby-body survived
and survives after a fashion of thought.
When you perish thoughts of survival
you may learn to live and to thrive
rather than merely survive.
Perhaps then you will be able to bike in peace.
Maybe even with a thrill of adrenaline
rushing thru your body in traffic.
Never know tho, bouts you.
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and it will be more and more so as we progress toward the
end.
Sounds a bit bleak to me.
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Hopefully a revolution will make things right before that happens
and the monkey will be happy out of the cage once again.
That hope appears somewhat doubtful.
In your particular case in particular.
You do not appear to have the capacity
to transcend basic dualistic n'oceans.
Unable to sea
you don't ride the waves.
The surf is up
but you don't have a board.
You could body-surf
if you were able to get beyond
identification with your bodily form.
As a Flat-lander your perceptions tend
to be extremely limited in perspective.
Looks to be a movie out now.
http://www.flatlandthemovie.com/
The Trailer has been hitched.

Metaphor mites elude you.
You know, you could make a lot of money working for the corporations
that try to confuse the public. But you only succeed in making
yourself and the Buddhist philosophy look bad.

Someone as smart as I am posts this comment to the video above:

'This is not Progress, on the contrary, it's just called this way but
we are actually destroying ourselves. Evolution and progress means
helping the World and this way ourselves to live better. Destroying
everything we have in the name of a so called "progress" it's not
evolving. This is just a lie of the governemnts run by the giant
corporations (petrol industry, for example) That's what it's all
about...'
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-22 18:22:32 UTC
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On Nov 22, 11:38 am, BeamMeUpScotty
On Nov 19, 3:04 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
On Nov 18, 10:31 am, BeamMeUpScotty
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
http://youtu.be/3DuampumYoc
All the ingredients are there: the monkey, pollution, China embracing
consumption, revolution... We are in trouble and it asks the most
important faced by philosophers: "WHY?"
It turns out that the monkey never asks why and we humans often forget
to. Why are we recklessly destroying the planet? Why can't we ride a
bike in peace?
You make false assumptions;
(1)  Are we destroying the planet?  I say NO.
(2) Will Bicycles save the planet? I say NO
Yes, bicycles minimize the impact of humans.
So walking and using donkey carts and going back to the stone age is
your progressive plan?
Shutting down Coal electric and sitting in the dark isn't really that
much of a plan.    Rolling black outs and food shortages and destroying
the medical care is NOT really progress.
--
*Welcome to Socialism*
-Kum bay ya-
This is South Africa --assumed to be the most progressive country in
Africa-- and yet having no bicycle culture or infrastructure. Other
countries being poorer perhaps rely more on the bike and less on the
car. Good for them.
http://youtu.be/I348QN5Ml5Q
Notice the old lady --84 four years old-- who can barely walk but she
rides a bike. Is that the secret to health and longevity? Is the
bicycle the key to real progress in Africa? Of course it is.
Then do it if you believe in it, but why force me to believe in your
beliefs?
--
*Welcome to Socialism*
-Kum bay ya-
I believe in it and I try to do something about it, but you don't let
me!

I ride a bike, I come under attack. I must ride on sidewalks in order
to survive and I can't avoid many close encounters with cars and
pedestrians. Would you give me space to practice my belief?

You believe in waste and the car to motivate the economy. I believe in
frugality and the bike as the vehicle of liberation. You control three
lanes of traffic and you leave 3 feet of sidewalk for bikes and
pedestrians.

That's the lion's share, right?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-27 17:10:46 UTC
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(I'm thinking here in terms of SMART PHONES, not highways. A bicycle
is smarter than a car because it follows evolution --ie. the lifestyle
of the hunter gatherer.)
I rest my case.
Was your case tired?
Why rest it?
Were you tired of clinging?
Are you tired of suffering?
I meant "I leave you off the hook for a while."

But now I finally figured you out. You suffer from a small neocortex.
In other words, your brain is very primitive and you are slowing down
the progress of humanity because you know no better. You hate new
ideas and I promote them:

'Inventor, futurist and author Ray Kurzweil has long predicted humans
will one day be able to transcend the limitations of their biology. In
a new book, Kurzweil explains why that day is coming sooner than we
might think. He argues that the expansion of the brain's neocortex was
the last biological evolution man needed to make. That's because it is
inevitably leading to "truly intelligent machines," which Kurzweil
calls the last invention that humanity needs to make. Join Diane and
Ray Kurzweil for a discussion on prospects for attaining immortality
through technology.'

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-11-27/ray-kurzweil-how-create-mind-secret-human-thought-revealed

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Our leaders suffer from the same primitive mind so you are not alone.
Listen to the whole show and may see what I've trying to tell you all
along. "The TibetanMonkey always said it," I hear people say.

So immortality comes through technology not reincarnation.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-19 18:27:04 UTC
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Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Destroying
everything we have in the name of a so called "progress" it's not
evolving.
If the asteroid and volcanoes didn't wipe out dinosaurs
then your species and many mammals would not have
evolved into what you are now.
If you think it'sprogress, then that's your thought.
The dinosaurs might not agree.
Or perhaps they took
flight and grew feathers, as a result of the mass
extinction event. The destruction of everything
they had about 65 million years ago.
Sorry, I didn't know you were totally ignorant of evolution.
Total ignorance is one of my spacial talents.
Feathers existed before the asteroid.
And, your point is?
http://www.flwildflowers.com/birdsdinosaurs/
"With the complicity of a devastating asteroid, volcanism, and nest
predation in a million-or-so-year span, extinction of the dinosaur was
almost completely accomplished at the end of the Cretaceous about 65
million years ago. No dinosaurs were left on earth, except birds that
had swam to polar lands and birds that had flown to safer havens than
bare ground and had developed stratagems, in groups or in pairs, to
protect their eggs and young.
Worldwide, the asteroid collision contributed almost entirely to the
discontinuance of flightless aquatic birds -- except for the penguin
and its northern black-and-white flightless counterpart, the great
auk, ... "
It was the mammals that launched their
revolution after the stupid dinosaurs  were gone.
You think you are smarter than a dinosaur?
Silly human. You think you will survive the asteroid?
Do you think you'll survive the super-volcano?
If we follow your logic atomic bombs are welcomed.
Maybe by roaches.
You make so sense. Roaches would love humans --if you did a survey--
because they eat more thanks to us. It's an educated guess that the
population of roaches, rats and raccoons would crash after the big
one. They will survive though.

Cats will become a super predator and fat cats will be no more. But
the cats already rule around here, so they must be planning the
takeover.
After the asteroid or super-volcano impacts your planet,
whatever is left alive will have room to expand,
to fill the niches opened up.
Evolution will continue.
What it has in store for you, you have no clue.
You are changing evolution in ways similar to a catastrophic asteroid
or volcano. All in the name of "progress."
Do you think that by slowing climate change
that you can affect the next ice age?
For all you know, a warmer climate
may be the answer to the next ice age.
By trying to not allow it to occur
you might only hasten your demise.
You may think what you call pollution is bad.
Yes, try sleeping in your car while the engine is running in a closed
garage.

Then get back to me.
For all you know it might actually be good
and by trying to scrub yourself clean
you are only making yourself weak
and subject to dis-ease.
You will not be assimilated.
Listen to this man of science saying the same thing I'm saying. He
calls you an animal, but I'm sure you'll take no offense like the
people of Texas did. But this scientist doesn't consider us a smart
animal. Only the philosopher and the man of science are smart. The
rest just follow or try to survive in a way dictated by the economy
and a sick concept of "progress."

It's a long video so grab a cup of tea and enjoy the show...


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-19 18:38:02 UTC
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On Nov 18, 10:31 am, BeamMeUpScotty
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
http://youtu.be/3DuampumYoc
All the ingredients are there: the monkey, pollution, China embracing
consumption, revolution... We are in trouble and it asks the most
important faced by philosophers: "WHY?"
It turns out that the monkey never asks why and we humans often forget
to. Why are we recklessly destroying the planet? Why can't we ride a
bike in peace?
You make false assumptions;
(1)  Are we destroying the planet?  I say NO.
(2) Will Bicycles save the planet? I say NO
Yes, bicycles minimize the impact of humans.
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
"Surviving" is the perfect word because life nowadays is about
survival
This is true, finally you actually tell the truth...  but life is always
about survival, you are just a single snapshot in time.  You don't see
beyond you, it's mildly narcissistic.
You just make it more dangerous than it should be. My idea of fun
doesn't include fighting traffic.
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
 and it will be more and more so as we progress toward the
end.
Maybe as you progress toward your end you will see it more and more
because that's what you look for.
We only got one planer. If you are wrong, future generations pay the
price. Well, NYC is already paying the price.
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 Hopefully a revolution will make things right before that happens
and the monkey will be happy out of the cage once again.
The cage is your small frame of reference.
That makes life more like the Occupy movement where we will have to
ignore the powers that be and elect to live under anarchy through
PASSIVE RESISTANCE.
That's the only way to go. We must be smart.

In order for your theory to work you have to move to the Moon and try
surviving in a hostile environment. The rest of us --those who believe
in prevention-- stay here on Earth.
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*Rumination*
 #30 - Socialism will eventually run out of other people's money and
collapse.\
Close all those parks and libraries already "occupied" by the
homeless. Drop the war on drugs. Cut down Medicare. Sorry, that's the
Holy Cow.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-11-22 16:02:55 UTC
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This is South Africa --assumed to be the most progressive country in
Africa-- and yet having no bicycle culture or infrastructure. Other
countries being poorer perhaps rely more on the bike and less on the
car. Good for them.



Notice the old lady --84 four years old-- who can barely walk but she
rides a bike. Is that the secret to health and longevity? Is the
bicycle the key to real progress in Africa? Of course it is.

Many things are wrong in Africa, including the type of bike they use --
some unreliable Indian bike-- but there's hope before "progress" --
read Western consumption-- destroys communities and lives.

All those goals and more are to be faced by the Bike Revolution --a
revolution in mobility and freedom.
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