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'We All Can Ride': turning gang culture into bicycle culture
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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-04-25 18:19:59 UTC
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On Apr 25, 1:35 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
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"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Hoodies tend to hide your face and shouldn't be worn with casual
disregard for other people's reaction. Maybe a hoodie is OK but
wearing the hood around is not.
TM lives in Miami
yeah Yahoo pubbed a Martin/hoodie photo and at 6' if he attacked me I shoot
a leg or shoulder would suffice bjut thus isnot always possible.
good photo example, tilting away from Martin as innocent.
photolineups are a PITA for 'people' like Zimmerman who is obviuosly a fat
pig creep waiting for sonmeoine to screw uo so he can establish his manhood
by shooting, killing a PERP.
Baretta was a good example. Obviously looking at Baretta, he's innocent,
but TV residue locked him up.
Milly Cyrus walks right ?
I wear long hair and beard. I am. But the rig is warm, I do animal
communications research, birds see me as a bird.
The Right often sees me as a hippie criminal, specing the Right's
brainwaves as criminals look like used car salesmen and tough jocks in the
motorcycle club mode.
Obviously a hoodie in Lincoln Nebraska....
Same for cycle clothing...DO IT !...specs you as a harmless nutto athletic
affording expensiver clo.
Talking about communicating with animals, gang members are "pack
animals" and you need to same strategy.
Interesting that in the UK a hoodie is the bad guy himself...
Mr Grayling denied that his plans amounted to a reversal of David
Cameron¹s so-called Œhug a hoodie¹ campaign and shrugged off the
suggestion that the new Tory stance was more like Œmug a hoodie¹.
And this is an interesting comment...
This really is financially prohibitive and impractical nor does it
resolve why teenagers behave this way and it's about time we had some
radical/lateral thinking punishments that at least have some
possibility of working. The root of the problem is fairly fundamental
- put a group of youths together on any street corner and, as with any
animal pack, they automatically believe that corner and the streets
around it are their territory and therefore they can do whatever they
want in their own designated area. So how do you deal with this? Every
pack has a leader, police identify that individual and each time the
youths are known to be responsible for any anti-social behaviour make
the leader carry out community work. Sweeping the streets,
whitewashing graffiti from walls anything that improves the local
environments. Yes this will cost manpower resources, yes it will need
to be monitored, but hey the law abidding community is losing this
battle no matter what the statistics say!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217989/Mug-Hoodie-Tories-pro...
000-jail-clear-Britains-streets-thugs.html#ixzz1qtHIpYz9
***
I find it interesting because then the streets won't be full of shit
as they are now. And this conforms with the Wisdom of the Jungle. But
that's only my humble opinion.
You've really jumped the tracks on this one Monk. Where to start? First
off, in your post of April 1, you let slide a reference in a publication
that datakoll posted, "Z, a cop and M a negro is a classic American
problem". First off there are no negros, just people with varying
amounts of melanin. If you wanted to be very picky, I suppose you could
divide the world between those from sub-Saharan Africa, and everybody
else. When everybody else left Africa, they encountered Neanderthal man
(our cousin who was somewhat conceptually challenged) and picked up some
of his chromosomes (1% - 4% for everyone, except the sub-Saharans).
But I digress. White people, and People of color (black, or brown
People) are the appropriate terms because there are NO sub-species for
Homo sapiens.
There are a number of issues that I see here. Firstly, a hood makes
you a dangerous people in the eyes of many people. Why wear it outside
the right context? Secondly, the racial issue works two ways.
Zimmerman is part of a minority as well. Thirdly, the gun culture
creates this vigilante mentality. It happened in Florida where "stand
your ground" is the law of the land. Fourthly, gated communities have
lower tolerance for gang members, so the paranoia is fed by separating
people. Fifth, why not give other options to youths other than
assuming the identity of a gang? Where's the space to ride a bike and
keep them off violence?
So, I think they were the wrong people in the wrong place.
This is the kind of culture we should be promoting. Not gang culture,
but bicycle culture:

'We All Can Ride started in the summer of July 2010 when Egbevado
Ananouko and Charles Robertson went on a bike ride out to Powell
garage lost and found. Charles had lost his keys and they were out
there to pick them up. As Egbevado stopped at Mccoy park to wait for
Charles to get his bike from his house, he played soccer with some of
the kids he worked with at the boys and girls club. When Charles
Joined Egbevado they rode off and noticed kids on bikes had followed
them. The children wanted to bike ride with the two men and Egbevado
said maybe next time while Charles promised them a bike ride the
following week. The kids stopped following them an as Egbevado and
Charles were on the road, Egbevado asked Charles "why did you promise
those kids a bike ride next week?" "Are you able to lead the bike
ride?" Charles replied "No, Egbevado you are the one who works with
kids so you will lead the ride." Once returning from the Powell garage
Egbevado started to plan and come up with a name for the ride, he
decided on “We All Can Ride" and the journey began.'

http://weallcanride.org/

Around here only pro cyclists will ever dare ride on the road. That
usually means affluent, white people ride bikes in lycra suits on
weekends with speed and confidence to match. But that sometimes turns
tragic too as the recent hit and run of a cyclist proves. He will have
a memory ride, but minorities don't even get that. Minorities need a
positive program such as We All Can Ride to prove themselves. It
sounds to me like kids are bored and they simply have the wrong role
model to follow.

So it that the city of Portland is taking the lead while we ignore the
reality of the jungle. I guess we only know how to build gated
communities to keep hoodies out, but they sometimes find themselves in
the wrong place. Beyond justice there's a need for solutions. But
that's only my humble opinion.



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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
2012-04-26 01:57:15 UTC
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On Apr 25, 2:17 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Post by His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
On Apr 25, 1:35 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
In article
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Hoodies tend to hide your face and shouldn't be worn with casual
disregard for other people's reaction. Maybe a hoodie is OK but
wearing the hood around is not.
TM lives in Miami
yeah Yahoo pubbed a Martin/hoodie photo and at 6' if he attacked me I shoot
a leg or shoulder would suffice bjut thus isnot always possible.
good photo example, tilting away from Martin as innocent.
photolineups are a PITA for 'people' like Zimmerman who is obviuosly a fat
pig creep waiting for sonmeoine to screw uo so he can establish his manhood
by shooting, killing a PERP.
Baretta was a good example. Obviously looking at Baretta, he's innocent,
but TV residue locked him up.
Milly Cyrus walks right ?
I wear long hair and beard. I am. But the rig is warm, I do animal
communications research, birds see me as a bird.
The Right often sees me as a hippie criminal, specing the Right's
brainwaves as criminals look like used car salesmen and tough jocks in the
motorcycle club mode.
Obviously a hoodie in Lincoln Nebraska....
Same for cycle clothing...DO IT !...specs you as a harmless nutto athletic
affording expensiver clo.
Talking about communicating with animals, gang members are "pack
animals" and you need to same strategy.
Interesting that in the UK a hoodie is the bad guy himself...
Mr Grayling denied that his plans amounted to a reversal of David
Cameron¹s so-called Œhug a hoodie¹ campaign and shrugged off the
suggestion that the new Tory stance was more like Œmug a hoodie¹.
And this is an interesting comment...
This really is financially prohibitive and impractical nor does it
resolve why teenagers behave this way and it's about time we had some
radical/lateral thinking punishments that at least have some
possibility of working. The root of the problem is fairly fundamental
- put a group of youths together on any street corner and, as with any
animal pack, they automatically believe that corner and the streets
around it are their territory and therefore they can do whatever they
want in their own designated area. So how do you deal with this? Every
pack has a leader, police identify that individual and each time the
youths are known to be responsible for any anti-social behaviour make
the leader carry out community work. Sweeping the streets,
whitewashing graffiti from walls anything that improves the local
environments. Yes this will cost manpower resources, yes it will need
to be monitored, but hey the law abidding community is losing this
battle no matter what the statistics say!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217989/Mug-Hoodie-Tories-pro...
000-jail-clear-Britains-streets-thugs.html#ixzz1qtHIpYz9
***
I find it interesting because then the streets won't be full of shit
as they are now. And this conforms with the Wisdom of the Jungle. But
that's only my humble opinion.
You've really jumped the tracks on this one Monk. Where to start? First
off, in your post of April 1, you let slide a reference in a publication
that datakoll posted, "Z, a cop and M a negro is a classic American
problem". First off there are no negros, just people with varying
amounts of melanin. If you wanted to be very picky, I suppose you could
divide the world between those from sub-Saharan Africa, and everybody
else. When everybody else left Africa, they encountered Neanderthal man
(our cousin who was somewhat conceptually challenged) and picked up some
of his chromosomes (1% - 4% for everyone, except the sub-Saharans).
But I digress. White people, and People of color (black, or brown
People) are the appropriate terms because there are NO sub-species for
Homo sapiens.
There are a number of issues that I see here. Firstly, a hood makes
you a dangerous people in the eyes of many people. Why wear it outside
the right context? Secondly, the racial issue works two ways.
Zimmerman is part of a minority as well. Thirdly, the gun culture
creates this vigilante mentality. It happened in Florida where "stand
your ground" is the law of the land. Fourthly, gated communities have
lower tolerance for gang members, so the paranoia is fed by separating
people. Fifth, why not give other options to youths other than
assuming the identity of a gang? Where's the space to ride a bike and
keep them off violence?
So, I think they were the wrong people in the wrong place.
This is the kind of culture we should be promoting. Not gang culture,
'We All Can Ride started in the summer of July 2010 when Egbevado
Ananouko and Charles Robertson went on a bike ride out to Powell
garage lost and found. Charles had lost his keys and they were out
there to pick them up. As Egbevado stopped at Mccoy park to wait for
Charles to get his bike from his house, he played soccer with some of
the kids he worked with at the boys and girls club. When Charles
Joined Egbevado they rode off and noticed kids on bikes had followed
them. The children wanted to bike ride with the two men and Egbevado
said maybe next time while Charles promised them a bike ride the
following week. The kids stopped following them an as Egbevado and
Charles were on the road, Egbevado asked Charles "why did you promise
those kids a bike ride next week?" "Are you able to lead the bike
ride?" Charles replied "No, Egbevado you are the one who works with
kids so you will lead the ride." Once returning from the Powell garage
Egbevado started to plan and come up with a name for the ride, he
decided on “We All Can Ride" and the journey began.'
http://weallcanride.org/
Around here only pro cyclists will ever dare ride on the road. That
usually means affluent, white people ride bikes in lycra suits on
weekends with speed and confidence to match. But that sometimes turns
tragic too as the recent hit and run of a cyclist proves. He will have
a memory ride, but minorities don't even get that. Minorities need a
positive program such as We All Can Ride to prove themselves. It
sounds to me like kids are bored and they simply have the wrong role
model to follow.
So it that the city of Portland is taking the lead while we ignore the
reality of the jungle. I guess we only know how to build gated
communities to keep hoodies out, but they sometimes find themselves in
the wrong place. Beyond justice there's a need for solutions. But
that's only my humble opinion.
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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
Last time I rode on a city street an old woman driver nearly
assassinated me, and I have ridden all over Western North Carolina and
Southern California, and then places where I could find a field to
land on, take my bike off the plane, and ride the town, such as
Townsend, TN, and Mountain City, TN, and Elizabethton, TN, and
Clemson, SC.
So now I ride the sidewalks in town and out of town the greenways --
Asheville, NC; Greenville, SC, and every once in a while the Blue
Ridge Parkway when traffic is thin. Because drivers just innately
Knoxville, TN.
And here is a great movie to watch where a motorist does a hit-and-run
on a bicyclist and is caught red-handed. Watch this, it's mucho fun!
--->
http://videosift.com/video/Driver-Attemps-Hit-and-Run-Gets-Blocked-in...
Notice that Pennsylvania has changed its laws to encourage bicycling,
but it doesn't encourage me all that much.
When I lived in Southern Cal. for a few short months I rode the
bicycle trail, along the beach, all the way from Rancho Palos Verdes
to Santa
Monica. I miss that. That was a great ride, and when bicyclists
crossed public roads they had the right-of-way.
Now back to bitch-slapping an illiterate git from the texecution state.
http://videosift.com/video/Driver-Attemps-Hit-and-Run-Gets-Blocked-in-By-Other-Drivers

Awesome. This video also proves my point that we need LIVE CAMERAS all
over the place to catch those criminals.

And then they need to be handed down a harsh sentence to serve as
example.

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